Sahira and Rahat Kazmi’s handsome son, Ali Kazmi, is all set to conquer Hollywood with the upcoming release of his first major feature film, director Sidney J. Furie’s “Pride of Lions.” In an exclusive conversation with Ally Adnan, he talks about his upcoming film, his life, and his experiences as an actor in both Pakistan and Canada
Do you enjoy being in front of the camera?
I am very comfortable in front of the camera, having had an early start at the age of two, when my mother directed and featured me in the video of Nayyara Noor’s patriotic song, Wattan Ki Matti Gawah Rehna. I have never looked back since. I have worked in a large number of commercials, television serials, plays, independent films, experimental features and tele-films, but, even today, I get excited when I face the camera. This is what I like and what I enjoy. I was born to face the camera.
How was the experience of being raised by two well-known actors?
My parents were two of Pakistan’s first thespians—actors who devoted their entire lives to the craft. Everything in our home revolved around acting. My home was a veritable institution for learning how to act. In addition to providing education, instruction and guidance, my parents inspired me to seek satisfaction and pride for performing a role well. Even today, I say, “It does not matter what part you play as long as you play it well.â€
‘At the age of seven, I acted in the highly successful TV series, Dhoop Kinaray, directed by my mother’
Why did you move to Canada?
My wife and I decided to move to Toronto, Canada, shortly after we got married. The prospect was terrifying because we were both doing well in Pakistan but it was something that had to be done. I needed to broaden my horizons. I attended the Toronto Film School and graduated with honors in Film History, Direction and Cinematography. Toronto has treated me well. I have found success, peace, happiness and friendships in the city.

When did you get your first big break?
I got my first break in Toronto with the 2009 Toronto Fringe Festival (www.fringetoronto.com). This is an annual theatre festival which features un-juried plays by artists from all over the world, mounted in various theatres all over the city. Quite by accident, I saw an audition notice from the Fringe Festival for Israel Horowitz’s one act play, The Indian Wants the Bronx. I knew the play well. It was the play that had made Al Pacino, the Al Pacino. The play is set in the sixties and tells the story of the fifty year old Gupta who arrives in New York from India to visit his son. The man barely speaks any English and is confronted by two hoodlums at a bus stop. A war of words follows and degenerates into tragic acts of rage and violence. The dark and gritty play was one that I had always wanted to be a part of. This was my chance.
‘It was too late to sign up for the audition, but my desire to act in the play was too great to be controlled’
I was too young for the role, did not have an agent at the time and it was too late to sign up for the audition, but my desire to act in the play was too great to be controlled. I showed up for the audition where I found the lobby full of fifty-year-old actors sitting to read from the play. Once they were all done, I raised my hand and sheepishly asked if I could audition. I was allowed to read from the script. I must have done well because I got a standing ovation from the producer and the director at the end. They were, however, concerned about my age and let me leave their offices somewhat flattered but decidedly disappointed. It wasn’t until two days later that they called to tell me that, after reviewing all audition tapes, they had decided to give me the role. After six weeks of grueling rehearsals, the play was mounted at Toronto’s famous landmark, Honest Ed’s where it played to sold out audiences and magnificent reviews.
Glickman Talent Management’s agent, Craig Alexander, saw my performance of Gupta and called me the next day to say that he wanted to represent me. He is my agent even today.
Do you have good memories of Pakistan?
I have great memories of working in Pakistan. At the age of seven, I acted in the highly successful TV series, Dhoop Kinaray, directed by my mother. Mom was worried about my ability to get the scene right and prepared to over-direct me when I surprised her by getting it right on the first and only take. I enjoyed working under my mother’s direction in Enver Sajjad’s play, Zikar Hai Kai Saal Ka, where my father and the beautiful Atiaqh Odho were my costars. My first drama serial, Phir Youn Love Hua, was directed by the immensely talented Rubina Ashraf in which I played the role of a young man named Sameer who falls hopelessly in love with a girl called Imaney played by the gorgeous Nadia Hussain. I worked on many other plays, tele-films and sitcoms, including Kaisa Yeh Junoon, Tere Ishq Main, Meethi Meethi Bathein, U-Turn, Kaisay Kahoon, Aurat Aur Mard, Urban Desi, Socha Na Tha and Haseena, in Pakistan. It is remarkable how Pakistan is able to produce high quality work with extremely limited resources and a socio-political environment that is rarely conducive to artistic expression.
Tell us about “Pride of Lions.â€
My big break into Hollywood—the Promised Land—comes with the veteran director Sidney J. Furie action-adventure feature film, “Pride of Lions.†The ensemble cast includes legendary actors including Bo Svenson, Margot Kidder, Louis Gossett Jr., and Seymour Cassel. The movie tells the story of five individuals who decide to embark on a daring rescue mission to save a group of young U.S. soldiers who are held captive in northern Afghanistan.
Sidney is a great director and working with him has been both fun and a learning experience. He really is an eighty-year-old kid! Full of energy, vigor and spontaneity, he brings an intense vitality to the set. The first one to arrive on the sets, and the last one to leave, he is the captain of ship where the entire crew works together as a family. The action-adventure script, written by Furie himself, treads into areas reserved for more serious genres exploring the relationship between grandparents and their grandchildren and finding humor in difference of views held by people of different generations.
Do you have a good life?
I am a very lucky individual. I make my living doing what I enjoy. One cannot ask for more.
Ali Xeeshan envisions designs complete with backdrops, props, the whole nine yards
Sitting in what Ali Xeeshan calls his “zen†garden, we are chatting about all things un-zen: the high-powered world of art and Pakistani fashion. Ali is a designer with a penchant for audacious statements.
A graduate of the Pakistan school of Fashion Design, Ali thought long and hard about how he would distinguish himself in the rigmarole of Pakistani fashion. “It is a cut-throat market that gives no second chances,†he says. His inspiration comes from his culture embedded in his DNA. “I come from a Punjabi family and we love our colours.â€
‘I always wanted to be an actor. You know, I’m always so excited to see a poster of Aamir Khan!’
Ali attributes his success partly to the schools where he studied. PIFD is noted for its ability to consistently churn out designers who go on to make a mark in Pakistani fashion. But Ali also has praise for Mrs. Sehyr Saigol, the Chairperson of the Executive Committee of PFDC, who was astonishingly cool about his scattered debut collection. A green parrot perched on one of Ali’s mannequin’s caught her eye, and that became the deal clincher for Ali’s career. He says, “It was very encouraging for me at that fragile time. I was terrified of failure at every turn.â€
So, what does it take to make it in the competitive industry of fashion? Imagination, to begin with, followed by tremendous stamina. Ali envisions designs complete with backdrops, props, the whole nine years. In other words, the designer must create drama in his collections. “I always wanted to be an actor. You know, I’m always so excited to see a poster of Aamir Khan!†laughs Ali. Under the umbrella of Ali Xeeshan’s Theatre Studio—where he is also quietly undertaking event management—he practices complete artistic freedom. “I love making areas and creating ambiences, with light, furniture, cut pieces, heights and shapes.â€
A green parrot perched on one of Ali’s mannequin’s caught
Mrs. Saigol’s eye
The Ather Shahzad shoot at the Lahore Fort was a particularly memorable styling extravaganza for Pakistani fashionistas. The models, crew and extras amounted to a whopping 70. This kind of creative excess has become synonymous with Ali Xeeshan whose signature style is one that turns heads. So much so that Ali is particularly well known for his runway show at PFW in 2010 where Nadia Hussain walked onto the stage cuddling a furry white cat. His shows have included dramatic jewelry that covers the face, oversized turbans, nurses hats, and much more. His dream as a fashion designer is to do a solo show, consisting of characters for whom special clothes are designed. The show would have props, lights and music to match. “With Fashion weeks,†he says, “there are certain lines drawn already. I try to break them all, but, realistically, there are only a few that one can breach. You can’t just do anything you want.â€
The most consistent request Ali gets from his clients is, “I want to look like a princess.†“Now,†he says, smiling, “I can guess it before they even say it!†But it’s clear that a client doesn’t always know what’s best for them. “One client wanted me to make her veil long enough so that five of her friends could carry it,†he says, “But it turned out being so heavily embellished that it wouldn’t even stay on her head!â€
Every model wants to be a showstopper
The modelling pool has some ways to go. Ali reports on occasions where models have interfered with art direction and asked to be favoured. Every model wants to be a showstopper, he says, “One show where the model was going third-last made a fuss that she wanted to walk out with me onto the ramp; in the meantime, she missed her turn!†The unprofessionalism, he says, is the result of a lack of education in the industry. In the West, many models have a working knowledge of art history and fashion genres, or a sense of how to carry the ball gown or whatever it is they are modelling. But in Pakistan, raw talent and raw beauty dominate. In a developing industry, is that really a bad thing? Ali agrees that Pakistan is bursting with talent. A number of models, he says, are extremely professional: Mehreen Syed, his muse, is on top of the list; Zara Peerzada and Cybil, he says, are also great models to work with.
As I leave his “zen†garden, I think back to Ali’s quote about fashion shows: “There are certain lines drawn already. You can’t just do anything you want.†If anyone has defied the rules, it is Ali Xeeshan. And he has done it with blazing creativity.
Writer Muhammad Ahmed is that rare thing—a gentleman from another era
The world of screenwriting is unique: the writer labours away crafting beautiful dialogue for the actors, while he remains largely anonymous to audiences. Muhammad Ahmed has successfully merged the two professions. Mainly a screenwriter, he has also starred in several Pakistani drama serials including the much-lauded Coke Kahani and Durr-e-Shahwar. Simultaneously, he has penned the dialogue of blockbusters such as “Tere Bin Laden.” With a command of Urdu that would make old Allama proud, Ahmed is a jewel in the crown of Pakistani television. Through out, he has wielded humour in the service of a humane social agenda.
Of all the roles he has played, he says the character of Durr-e-Shahwar’s father is one of his favourites. He played the part of a caring advisor who gave his daughter (played by Samina Peerzada) little wisdoms that helped her confront her demons. He laughs, “At this point in drama serials, you basically get to only play the father.” The leading roles are reserved for the innocent or evil-as-the-devil female protagonist. But some roles allow for creativity. In Coke Kahani, for example, Ahmed was allowed to play around with a wig. “I’ve always hated wigs, if you’re bald, then you’re bald!”
‘We are told to keep the ending particularly tragic, to begin dousing the female lead in sorrow within the first 3-4 minutes!’
“I’ve taken a break from writing for dramas, because,” he says with his signature wit, “the only thing the industry is interested in is making women cry.” Seasonal trends, he says, dictate TV content. “In one spell, for example, you will only find dramas about extramarital affairs on all four major channels. The heads get together and see what subject the show with the highest ratings is featuring; then they feel a burning need to cash in on the same story!” Ahmed is making me laugh very hard at this point. He continues. “We are told to keep the ending particularly tragic, to begin dousing the female lead in sorrow within the first 3-4 minutes!”
Ahmed has mostly written light-hearted plays. A little-known fact: he wrote “Azar Ki Ayegi Baraat” (2009), the first in the comedy line-up that would eventually include the phenomenally popular “Dolly Ki Ayegi Baraat” and “Takkay ki Ayegi Baraat.” “Azar” starred some of the biggest names in Pakistani television, including Javed Sheikh, Saba Hameed, and the irrepressible Bushra Ansari.
Ever the modest poet, however, Ahmed says, “To clarify, I don’t write comedy—Âthat is Anwar Maqsood’s job and there has been no one to match his skill yet in Pakistan.”


But “Tere Bin Laden” was noted, especially, for its humorous script. Nikhat Kazmi of The Times of India gave it a 4 out of 5 rating, adding, “compared with recent laugh riots at box offices, Tere Bin Laden has both: a smart script and some smart acting.” Pankaj Sabnani of Bollywood Trade News Network said, “Tere Bin Laden is ‘laden’ with many humorous moments. It is by far the funniest film in recent times. A must watch.” Asked about his style, Ahmed says, “I’m not that good with punchlines, I don’t think my writing makes people laugh out loud, but it does make them smile.” Ahmed was selected after extensive testing and hired to train some of the non-Punjabi speaking cast members who found the Punjabi humour in the dialogue very fun. Citing an example, he says, “Woh bacchi bari tight hai,” something that no one in Pakistan would laugh at, since we have heard it so many times, but spoken by a Sikh in India it had everyone in stitches.
‘The beautiful things that Haseena Moeen has written will be lost to the world’
Ahmed has approached serious subjects too. When he wrote a play about incest, “Khamoshi,” it was banned from being aired a second time. “My reasons for writing about this particular subject was, first, that it was based on a true story and secondly, I wanted to prove that it is possible to write a story about something so vile without sounding vulgar and without the production seeming tacky.” The result was a beautifully directed, sensitive play.
With a career spanning three decades, Ahmed has, with immense grace, divided his talents into acting and writing. An old-fashioned gentleman at heart, he misses the days of yore, when script-writing was mesmerizing, designed to please the heart, not producers hungry for ratings. “No one will ever give television the same high status as literature. The beautiful things that Haseena Moeen has written, Tanhaiyan, Dhoop Kinaray, these all will be lost to the world as great writing.”Â
What does it take to have a happy relationship?
Here are tips from some of Pakistan’s most famous couples
Juggan Kazim, actor/model
Some people think that the most important thing in making a relationship work is love or mutual understanding. I would say the most important thing is respect. If you don’t respect each other, it’s not possible to have a long-term relationship. If there is one thing I could keep in my relationship with my husband, or son, or mother, it would be respect. If I had all the money in the world and didn’t have respect, I’d rather have none of it.
Shaniera Akram
“To all GT readers, we wish you all a happy Valentine’s Day in 2014.”
Aamina Sheikh, actor
Let’s dance some more, shall we? Love. Communication. Trust. Understanding. Compatibility: words beaten to death when asked about a relationship. These are generic terms more easily used than applied; whoever states them is probably just trying to get done with the interview. We’re not ‘perfect.’ What is this term anyway? If anything, we’re beyond perfection. One can’t have a word that limits the potential of a human being. In fact isn’t it the imperfections and uncertainties in our world that are most promising? This companionship has the most dynamic range. It’s like chewing gum. We stretch it. Chew it. Savor it. Get irritated by it. Blow bubbles with it. Pop it. Crave for it. Squirm at its redundancy. Wonder at its longevity. Giggle at its idiocy. It’s all of this and more. There are moments together when you feel there can be no one closer, then there are events that make you feel no one can be furthest. Dance the dance of silence, of resistance, of distance; dance the dance of acceptance, of letting go, of forgiveness, the dance of melancholy, the dance of unlearning, the dance of re-learning, the dance of harmony, of ecstasy, of hope, of love. This is who and what we are – two souls partnered for the dance of life – while we watch each other we step in sync when the rhythm of life commands. May this dance continue till the eternal show and beyond. Amen.
Khadijah Shah, designer
A healthy relationship is one in which you can be who you are, follow your dreams and do the things you love!
Wasim and Naila Akhtar, politician and homemaker
Don’t ever stop dating your husband and don’t ever stop flirting with your wife. Also understand clearly that you are both on the same side. Everyday then will be Valentine’s Day.
Shahroz Sabzwari, actor
My advice would be to give the right amount of space to each other. Loyalty and everything else is secondary. The first thing is to respect each others space and that means you respect everything about your other half.
Tehmina Durrani, writer and wife of Chief Minister of Punjab
You must love a person in the way they need to be loved, instead of loving the way you want to love. Only then will you touch his heart and soul. Soon he will reciprocate. The key is patience and generosity.
Anwar Maqsood, writer
The most important thing for a healthy relationship is trust. If one speaks the truth, one is not afraid of anyone. You have to be honest in every relationship, whether it is between a mother and a son, a brother and a sister, or a boyfriend and a girlfriend. Valentine’s Day is a recent phenomenon in our culture, but not the tradition of giving a rose to someone. There is a verse by Ghazala Aleem about being given a rose that leaves one pricked with thorns. Roses always have thorns, except the ones we exchange on Valentine’s Day. They are without thorns and wrapped in plastic. Plastic is the worst thing for a flower. Moreover, all of Faiz’s poetry, all of Faraz’s poetry and all of Iqbal’s poetry tells us that every day is Valentine’s Day. All 365 days of the year should be spent loving each other. And then there would be no terrorists and no children without education. Love these children, so that they can become educated. Love them by giving them a bag of books. Love them by lightening their burden so that they may continue to educate themselves. That is to me what Valentine’s Day stands for.
Sharmila Farooqi, politician
Respect and space are the most important. In other words, stay away when in a bad mood!
Meesha Shafi, actor/singer
For any healthy relationship, respect and space are pivotal. But to maintain loving, dynamic, communication and appreciation are key. Being compassionate and trying to understand each other’s point of view, making time for one another and adapting as life takes its own course, these are the things that help couples grow together.






























































































