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Versatile actress Sarwat Gilani has become a household name through her powerful performances and advocacy for special needs children.Mehek Raza Rizvi sits down for a candid chat to know more about her work and life at home

Your movie, JPNA 2, was the first Pakistani blockbuster to cross the Rs 70 crore milestone. How does it feel to be part of the industry at a time that may be written down in history as its most transformative phase? 

Yes. Commercial cinema is the need of the hour, most certainly the safer bet, while independent cinema is slowly but surely catching up. In order to elevate our craft the pioneers of the industry must collectively open an institution to educate newcomers about film. It’s important to invest in and groom our talent, so they carry the torch forward. We’re witnessing the re-birth of Pakistani cinema and I’m extremely lucky to be part of this transformation.

With the conversation on gender equality and feminism on the rise, how important is it for female actors to choose their roles carefully and avoid playing the damsel in distress?

Most of our drama serials are about weak women who eventually turn into strong ones. So one could say there’s a kind of feminism involved, but obviously a little twisted since it’s drama. However, I believe as actors we shouldn’t judge the characters given to us.

We’re witnessing the re-birth of Pakistani cinema and I’m extremely lucky to be part of this transformation

As a woman, have you experienced any inherent prejudices in your line of work?

Every profession has its prejudices, but since the entertainment industry is at the forefront it’s very easy for people to create preconceived notions about those who are part of it. It used to bother me initially but eventually I realised it was only a reflection of a limited mindset. I remember a girl walking up to me while I was performing Umrah to ask why I was there and who looked after my children when I was at work. It’s very sad when women pull other women down because of their own insecurities.

Out of all the memorable performances to your credit, which one character portrayed by you remains the closest to your heart? Why? 

Linta from “Khasara” because it portrayed a strong woman who stood against the odds. She faced difficulties with grace and strength, which is an admirable quality. I enjoyed embodying her character as there were various dimensions to it.

We hear you may be producing a film soon. Is that true? 

Yes, it’s a secret right now, but when I’m ready I’ll talk about it.

You were recently awarded for your tireless efforts to promote Special Olympics Pakistan. Tell us about your work for the organisation and why it’s close to your heart. 

Being part of the SOP family has been an honour. I’ve witnessed these beautiful individuals transform from children with special needs into power house athletes, owning and embracing their differences. The rewards weren’t just restricted to medals, but also translated into every aspect of their lives, enabling them to realise their own potential. Belonging to the media, I had the advantage of reaching out to the entire nation for this noble cause.

What’s the secret to a happy relationship with your partner, especially when both of you have demanding careers?

More than anything else you need to accept that your partner’s an individual first and then your spouse. To be in a healthy and happy relationship it’s essential to appreciate and encourage each other. What I love most about Fahad is that he listens to my wildest ideas and gives me genuine advice. On the other hand, if something is troubling him I sit down and try to resolve it for him. This makes us realise that we’re both involved and interested in each other’s lives. Also, I feel it’s crucial to keep reinventing yourself in order to keep the fire burning, especially when you both are working individuals and barely get time to spend with each other. My mantra is: be a friend before a lover, a lover before a companion and a companion before a spouse.

As a working mother yourself, what would your advice be to women struggling to strike the work-life balance? 

Mothers are superheroes — they’re multitasking all the time. I manage my kids and work by being super organised with everything. For example, I have a set weekly menu for them so no time is wasted on thinking what to cook every day or what groceries to buy.

I’ve witnessed these beautiful individuals transform from children with special needs into power house athletes, owning and embracing their differences

It’s important to keep certain days of the week free for family and have one activity that you do with them everyday. It could be a quick game or reading to them, either while dropping them to school or putting them to bed. These are the things they will remember most when they grow up.

In the world of social media, the ruthlessness of trolls is something all public figures are subjected to. How do you respond to them? 

Everyday I get numerous comments and sometimes they can be very hurtful. Since there’s no limit to what anyone can write on social media, it’s up to us how seriously we take it.

At the end of the day I realise they come from people who see me as public property, so I remind myself to not give them undue attention. Whether it’s me jumping from the sky, smoking, wearing unconventional clothes or climbing K2, the trolls will always have a comment that comes from an unexposed mentality.

My mantra is: be a friend before a lover, a lover before a companion and a companion before a spouse

What is Sarwat Gilani like at home?

I like everything clean and in order. I’m often found organising mine and the kids’ wardrobes, the pantry or the kitchen. I love gardening, so I manage my plants with the gardener as well. He thinks I treat my plants as my own children and that’s actually kind of true.

I’m very chilled out with close family and friends and enjoy entertaining at home.

SHORT & SWEET

Theater, film or TV? 

Film and now web-series

Three changes motherhood brought in you?

Patience

Empathy for special needs children

Multitasking

Your guilty pleasure?

Watching ‘Sex and the City’ every chance I get

One thing you would want to change about the entertainment industry in Pakistan?

Unhealthy competition

Alternate career choice? 

Interior designer

Favourite ‘90s jam?

“Bittersweet Symphony” by The Verve

What was the last photo you took?

Of my sons playing in the sand

Your personal style in three words?

Classic

Comfortable 

Chic

Last impulsive buy?

Shoes for the kids in Poland

Most prized possession?

My father’s antique watches

What was the last lie you told?

“The dessert was great”

Do you have a nickname?

Siju

A decision you regret?

Not a single one

Favourite movie quote?

“Life moves pretty fast, if you don’t look around once in a while you’re going to miss it.” From “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off”

 

Photography, hair & makeup:

Akif Ilyas

Wardrobe:

Soraya B, Nitya Bajaj & Vesimi

Styling & Coordination:

Ella Hussain — Emergency Room 19

Bushra Ansari is a true living legend who has continued to dominate the entertainment industry for over five decades. From acting, to singing, hosting and writing, she has done it all and aced each undertaking. This icon has received all major Pakistani awards, including Pakistan’s highest civilian award, the Pride of Performance. She is celebrated in particular for her impersonations of Madam Noor Jehan, Tahira Syed, along with her impeccable performances in Fifty-fifty, Angan Terha, Raja Ki Ayegi Barat and Udaari. Sana Zehra sits down with Ansari to have a candid conversation about life and work.

You’re celebrated as one of Pakistan’s living legends. Do you think your success has put pressure on your children to live up to your name? 

I’ve never put any kind of pressure on my daughters. I worked in media because that’s always been my passion. When it comes to my children, they’ve been free to follow their own dreams. My husband and I have been strong advocates of female empowerment and I’m glad my daughters are carrying on that legacy.

My husband and I have been strong advocates of female empowerment and I’m glad my daughters are carrying on that legacy

Tell us about your relationship with your daughter Meera.

Meera and I are best friends and spend a lot of our free time together. I enjoy our conversations, as neither of us enforce our ideas on the other. Despite my hectic schedule, I ensure I’m in touch with her via calls or WhatsApp. We cherish our relationship and that’s why we’ve balanced and managed it so well.

How did you manage motherhood with your professional commitments?

Being a mother of two beautiful girls, a full-time housewife and working in showbiz wasn’t easy at all. My family lived in Lahore, while my in-laws lived in Islamabad, so I never had the privilege of leaving my children with their grandparents. Despite this, I was always there for them — from school pick-and-drop, tuitions, parent-teacher meetings and all other activities. If I were travelling abroad, I’d take them along. So, I feel content knowing that I never neglected my girls because of work.

A lot of working mothers feel guilty while at the workplace. What’s your advice for them?

My best advice is to try to appreciate time for what it is. If you’re at work embrace your time without the kids, where you can focus on your own ambitions and goals. When you’re home, have fun playing with them. The trick is to find the silver lining in the chaos.

How have your notions of what it means to be a woman changed over the years?

I’m so proud that I’m a woman. Surviving in a man’s world is not easy for us. But then what is life, if it’s not tough and challenging? And I love challenges. I’ve never compromised on my principles and moral values and have received so much respect, love and acceptance for just being who I am, which is an achievement in itself. Women today are empowered and a lot more open to the curves life throws at them.

Surviving in a man’s world is not easy for us. But then what is life, if it’s not tough and challenging? And I love challenges

Out of all the characters you’ve portrayed on screen, which one do you relate to the most? 

I’ve always chosen my characters mindfully. However, my role in “Udaari” as Sheedan is closest to my heart, because the concept is completely different from typical Pakistani drama serials. Sheedan doesn’t embody the common ‘log kya kaheinge’ (what will people say?) mentality; she has a heart of gold, but is also undiplomatic and fears no one. It’s about a woman who earns for her family by singing and dancing at weddings and is fiercely unapologetic about it. She’s rather proud of it.

Tell us about your video to promote peace between Pakistan and India. 

My inbox is filled with viewers’ feedbacks who say the song is the voice of their soul. The idea was to promote peace and harmony and to make everyone know what a common man from both ends of the spectrum wants. The general public from both sides of the border genuinely wants peace, but politics and warmongers create distances between them.

Have you ever felt the pressure of being an influential figure for the masses?

Not pressure but responsibility I would say. When so many people look up to you and follow you it becomes your responsibility to raise you voice for issues that are important. It’s no less than a privilege that God has bestowed you with and one should definitely strive to make a change by taking a constructive advantage of their position in the society. When you’re a public figure you generally have a heavy influence and impact on individuals and society, as many people follow you and you can change people’s perspectives and beliefs in few minutes. Therefore, you have to act responsibly because you’re accountable for your words.

You’ve seen the entertainment industry evolve since its early PTV days. How do you think it’s changed you as an artist? 

As compared to yesteryears, television in Pakistan has grown dramatically. The production of satellite channels and cable TV networks has made it possible for a large number of Pakistanis to have access to TV entertainment. Today, the content is completely changed from how it used to be in early years.  To be honest, it hasn’t changed much for me as an artist, because I’ve always been open to roles with substance — I never shy away from challenges. Yes, the audience’s approach is different towards the content today, but one thing that’s remained constant in my career is that I believe in quality over quantity.

What advice would you give to your younger self?

Don’t hold back on doing what you really want, because it won’t bring you far in life. Correct yourself, empower yourself and most of all love yourself.

 

Over the past fortnight I found myself being pulled in several directions. The demands of being an editor at a fortnightly, along with being editor at a literary journal (The Aleph Review), while running two companies as my day jobs (Consilium Counselling Services and Small Talk IMC) began to overwhelm me. This, though, was just scratching the surface; multiple weddings, dance practices, birthdays, work receptions and book launches took up all the remaining time.

Looking around me, I began noticing this is the life of almost everyone I know. Therefore, choosing a topic for this issue wasn’t hard. The recurring theme from the past fortnight lent itself easily to my pen and is something that has become all too common — everyone is just too darn busy!

People seem to constantly be on the go, trying to meet the demands of an unrealistically packed schedule: work, weddings, dance practices, more work, yoga classes, special gym courses, more social commitments and even more work. Trying to meet up with friends to simply “hang out” without expectations has become a chore in itself and something to mark in the calendar three weeks in advance, but strictly between 7pm and 8pm because, you guessed it, that’s all that can be spared. And that too begrudgingly, as all of you will probably be checking your watches and stressing out about the long, seemingly never-ending to-do list. Why bother wasting time watching a movie together and sharing a human experience when you can simply watch Netflix, write a proposal and put on a soul-cleansing mask — all at the same time!

“Not surprisingly, our defining traits are a constant state of being broke and having to work multiple jobs, or at least thinking of them — a result of the global economy that the Baby Boomers have left us with”

The common denominator in all of this: millennials.

Millennial, a word that’s become almost ubiquitous, but also one that continues to gain negative connotation thanks to several social media posts and articles blaming us for ruining various industries from real estate to canned tuna. Allegedly, all millennials do is take “aesthetic AF” pictures of avocado toast for Instagram and hence, will never be able to afford a house.

William Strauss and Neil Howe coined this term back in 19871 when referring to those born between the early 1980s and mid-1990s — the Gen Y or those succeeding the Baby Boomers. Now, due to social media allowing space for interconnectivity and shared experiences, millennial is no longer relegated to simple demographic terminology, but can be denoted to represent an entire lifestyle. While the Boomers might have had the luxury of the “rich and famous” lifestyle, us millennials are generally always “booked and busy” and quite proud of that. This has become so representative of the struggle of our generation that scores of articles have been published addressing the millennial fatigue, burnout and how, despite being constantly immersed in novel experiences, we are prone to loneliness and mental health issues.

The distinguishing factor of being a millennial, therefore, seems to be this constant urge to not have a single moment of actual freedom — even that Sunday evening self-care mask becomes a tool for social media content creation. Very rarely do we step out of our “work mode” to just be in the moment. This might be a direct consequence of growing up in an age so integrated with technology (I shudder to think what will happen to the generations below us), but is also something we actively pressure ourselves into doing. Work seems to define us. But why is that so?

In order to decipher the millennial code I turned to those around me. A quick Instagram “Ask Me Anything” directed towards the meanings of being a millennial and our work culture yielded several passionate responses and voice notes.

Not surprisingly, our defining traits are a constant state of being broke and having to work multiple jobs, or at least thinking of them — a result of the global economy that the Baby Boomers have left us with. With failing economic systems and widespread job insecurity, it’s no wonder that we feel such financial uncertainty. As Qasim Ahsan, an academic, put it, “punctuating breaks with the fear of fiscal insecurity.”

Mahnoor Wali, co-founder and IMC consultant at Small Talk, seems to think the integration of technology is making everyone extremely accessible round-the-clock, in turn leading to a need to be available. We’re fed the narrative of working hard and being on the grind from our parents, however, we’ve taken it to another level; the fact that we are accessible means we should be. Maryam Raja, stylist at Grazia Pakistan, believes it’s also due to the amount of options we have. Comparing our generation to our parents’, she believes that being a millennial means going out into the world without a definite plan and set expectations.

Another interesting aspect of this was highlighted by Hiba Sheikh, co-founder of Consilium, that technological integration has led to work never stopping and by extension, work relationships having blurred boundaries. This is something I agree with; perhaps the reason why we’re constantly talking about work and how busy we are, is because most of our digital interactions outside of work end up being with our colleagues — sharing relevant memes, following up on clients in WhatsApp groups or simply finding common ground to vent.

From what I gathered, the need to “look busy” is brought on by our lives being broadcasted for the world to see on social media. Sure, we might have the liberty to work from home or out of a cafe, be a digital nomad as it were, but at the end, work takes centre stage in our lives. Whatever time we have left, we give to errands and social commitments. We take a certain pride in being “booked and busy,” or as my friend’s mother jests, engaged in “back-to-back” meetings. This high we get from a lengthy to-do list or having more work to do than the next person has serious negative mental health consequences that are only just being explored.

However, I did see a fascinating trend in all the responses I received to my Instagram story. Most Pakistanis were the ones highlighting the negative aspects of being stuck in the millennial generation; whether it was dismay at juggling ten different projects and multiple screens, hustling constantly or being perpetually broke. Contrastingly, my foreign friends were the ones extolling the benefits of being a millennial: freedom to choose what you want, working for what you believe in rather than being a cog in the machine, flexible working schedules and finding your own work ethic.

I believe what it boils down to is this: we’re in the digital age and there’s no escaping it; there’s no such thing as work-life balance anymore because work is life and vice versa. However, the advantage we have is that our generation is gravitating increasingly towards a lifestyle of fulfilment and inner satisfaction, despite financial uncertainty. We need to focus on these aspects of our millennial work culture and avoid the strains of projecting a perfectly well-adjusted life where all deadlines are met. That pressure has coined its own term, the millennial burnout; we must remember that our need for excelling at our passion projects and putting them up on Instagram should not outweigh our very human need of relaxing and finding joy in real human experiences.

1- Horovitz, Bruce (4 May 2012). “After Gen X, Millennials, what should next generation be?”. USA Today. Retrieved 22 April 2019

A lot goes into making a house a home. Daniya Q, mother of two and founder of Elite Fashion, worked painstakingly with architect Salman Jawed of Coalesce Design Studio to construct a space that’s contemporary, functional and innovative in its design. Sana Zehra finds out more

Was there a specific theme you had in mind while designing your house?
I always thought about having a home with a contemporary feel. Being able to have a space that’s simple and comfortable for my family was the idea behind our house.

Who was the architect and who did the interior?
Salman Jawed was our architect. Our discussions with him ensured us that he would deliver a masterpiece. Each and every area was taken under consideration, including minute details such as privacy for the family if someone is entertaining guests. The interior was done by Samia Khan.

What part about setting up your space did you enjoy the most?
I loved doing the basement. Having a complete view of trees was important to me and something I’ve enjoyed creating thoroughly.

What’s the best compliment your house has received?
Most compliments centre around how spacious and well-lit our house is and in spite of an open plan construction, the place has complete privacy. This last bit was definitely a challenge.

Which room in your house do you spend the most time in and why?
The ground floor around the kitchen area is where most of my time is spent. This area is the heart of the house and is easily accessible.

How often do you entertain?
Every now and then. We’ve hosted multiple brunches, lunches and dinners.

Describe a perfect day in your house?
A perfect day is spent watching my girls dance around the house.

What do you think makes a happy home?
Everyone in the family having their own space and enjoying it would make any home happy.

You have a lot of bright rugs in every room. Do you enjoy collecting them?
Yes. The house has lots of natural light and I knew bright rugs would add character and give a more curated feel.

Photography: Ahmed Shajee

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